[Sniper] 170 dex possibility / damage difference to 160 dex

[Cozzie]

Does anyone know if this is possible?

Bear in mind:

• no orlean gloves, they are too hard to obtain
• Can a sniper with 25 base int along with job and true sight bonus continuously maintain true sight buff which is necessary to give extra 5 dex?

So I can theoretically achieve 170 dex with 99 base:

• 2x nimble gloves - 8 * 2 = 16
• thights - 1
• rocker card 1
• ramen hat - 4
• binocular - 1
• job bonus - 14
• owl's eyes - 10
• true sight - 5
• attention concentrate - 14
• ablest - 2

There are many questions that is raised on that build:

1. Is it possible to get a ramen hat?
2. Would the damage be higher or lower if:
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3. I lower my dex to 160 by taking out a nimble glove to replace it with a sign or use a slotted bow thimble?
AND/OR
4. Use a 4 slotted comp bow instead with different mix of cards
AND/OR
5. Does the effect of using elemental arrow or elemental converters matter (ie: damage might be lower if using normal arrow at 160 dex with 4 slotted comp bow but higher if using elemental arrow or the use of converters)

[*]FINALLY is the damage difference huge or little?[/*]
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My view is that 160 dex will far achieve better damage only with a combination of two or more factors listed above, particularly the elemental difference along with extra buffs such as deluge with water arrows.

I have yet to do the calculations but I will get to it after tomorrow's exam. It's a drag you know. =/

[vernon092487]

i calculated the stats given above using http://rode.doddlercon.com/db/calc/index.php ..a sniper can only reach 170 dex with lvl 10 blessing or +10 dex food..

base dex = 99
job bonus = 14
ramen hat =4
binoculars=1
tights [rocker card] = 2
nimble glove [2 pcs] = 8
owls eye = 10
true sight = 5
arbalest = 2
improve concentration (considering all above is equip and in use) = 15
total = 160
with level 10 blessing or Dex Food +10 = 170
with level 10 blessing and Dex Food +10 = 180

damage based on Lord Knight Seyren (MVP) (closest to VIT Lord Knight, demi human, medium, except for element)

with +10 [2*racial] Arbalest+Crystal arrow+ 2 nimble glove+with buff=

No Deluge [Level 5]
Minimum Damage 1712(856X2hit)
Average Damage 1892(946X2hit)
Maximum Damage 2072(1036X2hit)
Damage Per Second 4978.95

With Deluge [Level 5]
Minimum Damage 2054(1027X2hit)
Average Damage 2270(1135X2hit)
Maximum Damage 2486(1243X2hit)
Damage Per Second 5973.68

with +10 [2*racial] Arbalest+Crystal arrow+ 2 nimble bow thimble =

No Deluge [Level 5]
Minimum Damage 1678(839X2hit)
Average Damage 1874(937X2hit)
Maximum Damage 2064(1032X2hit)
Damage Per Second 4931.58

With Deluge [Level 5]
Minimum Damage 2012(1006X2hit)
Average Damage 2248(1124X2hit)
Maximum Damage 2476(1238X2hit)
Damage Per Second 5915.79

with +10 [2*racial] Arbalest+Crystal arrow+ 1 nimble glove+sign accessory =

No Deluge [Level 5]
Minimum Damage 1656(828X2hit)
Average Damage 1852(926X2hit)
Maximum Damage 2032(1016X2hit)
Damage Per Second 4873.68

With Deluge [Level 5]
Minimum Damage 1986(993X2hit)
Average Damage 2222(1111X2hit)
Maximum Damage 2438(1219X2hit)
Damage Per Second 5847.37

with +10 [2*racial] Arbalest+Crystal arrow+ 1 nimble bow thimble+sign accessory =

No Deluge [Level 5]
Minimum Damage 1698(849X2hit)
Average Damage 1900(950X2hit)
Maximum Damage 2092(1046X2hit)
Damage Per Second 5000

With Deluge [Level 5]
Minimum Damage 2036(1018X2hit)
Average Damage 2280(1140X2hit)
Maximum Damage 2510(1255X2hit)
Damage Per Second 6000


based on this things and conditions above, 1 nimble bow thimble+sign accessory gives more DPS..sorry if i can't post the calculations for +10[4] Composite bow..too tired..

hope it helps..

[Motivus]

Orlean's gloves give 2 dex + 3 = 5 dex ea, 10 dex total

[Cozzie]

heh kill 3333 bow guardian for me please =P and find a way to survive at thor 3 against salamanders(can be done you know, just getting to the lockmap position spot is the problem.)

vernon, thanks that helps a lot.

oh yeah, no ramen hat. So gotta use dex food to compensate. I will do more research on this soon.

[vernon092487]

@Cozzie
NP..yup its really hard to get orleans glove[1]..if you have a biochemist..it will be a very big help to hunt..

[andy12345]

Well first don't kick me if I say something senseless (which I am most of the time),
But if you want to MVP with a Sniper get vivi's Gypsy to MC you. I am not sure but I think 50% of the stats are given..that would pump good amount of dex.

[hakore]

Marionette Control does not give you DEX more than the maximum base DEX allowed.

That's why it's useless for Pure Forgers (99 DEX).

[andy12345]

Marionette Control does not give you DEX more than the maximum base DEX allowed.

That's why it's useless for Pure Forgers (99 DEX).

oo Damn!,
No wonder when I used to call a gypsy for MC while I brewed I got no bonus../sigh

[shakespeare]

have u tried using other bow?

like 160 dex gakkung
&
160 dex arba

i know they have a different damage...
i personally use gakk for high def monster / target its more pwerful than arba
but arba gives +2 hmmm

[Cozzie]

if i have 160 dex, id rather go for comp bow. I think that gives the most damage if I use elemental arrows. Ablest is useful only for the dex, that's all.