openkore.com.br situation

[future_cool]

First of all, you've done some IQ test?

So how would limit something if the process would be limited access to our system that emulates the package of gameguards?[/quote]

° Ignorant as always, first I will not explain everything here what you were trying to do because they are not interested in the details but in resolve.

2 ° say what I say and respect that you were trying anyway gets a reason to exploit the situation for their own benefit.

3 ° you already managed to fix the problem bro and not passed to the community, trying to take advantage. Thank you.

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1°Ignorante como sempre, primeiro nao vou explicar tudo aqui o que voce estava tentando fazer pois eles nao estao interessados no detalhes e sim em resolver.

2° o que eu diz disser e a respeito, que voce de qualquer maneira estava tentando arruma um motivo para se aproveitar da situação para beneficio proprio.

3° voce ja conseguiu arrumar o problema do bro e nao passou para a comunidade, tentando se aproveitar. obrigado.

[KoreGhost]

First of all, you've done some IQ test?

.

1 - I'm really ignorant idiots with users, defect? quality? I do not care, it's my way.

2 - Earn? You do not know the whole story, and will continue not knowing, not interest me tell you.

3 - Yes, I am not employed by anyone and I will not help a community that contains users like you.

[kLabMouse]

Pff... I started to Moderate posts here. Because they only make a flame here and there.

RLY. People! WTF are you arguing here about?
Current Situation is: bRO have no "supporter" ho is willing to contribute into SVN.
The key is already here. I posted half of it. The second half was in this forum for quite a long.

Who is Brave to contribute back at least something useful. Talk!

[ever_boy_]

as for the Keys. They could be found in similar way as they where before (Just use DUMBED binary with some tool).

could you please name one of these tools?

[Random Noob]

Really would like to help, but I don't know much about Perl, only C/C++ and basic Assembly.

The only ones I know that understand about Perl and binaries is Fr3dBr and uPantcho, Fr3d I don't know what he's thinking about this situation and uPantcho is disappeared.

[kLabMouse]

as for the Keys. They could be found in similar way as they where before (Just use DUMPED binary with some tool).

could you please name one of these tools?

Pff... Easy. OllyDbg, W32Dasm, and finally IDA.

[ever_boy_]

I understand this is incredibly easy for you, who's been on this for years now. But I started a couple months ago. And I never really cared about learning anything else besides macros until now.

So, I'm just trying to see the whole picture here:

1. unpack ragexe, ok.
2. extract packets from unpacked ragexe (I'm not sure how to do it without your v3)
3. the main question: once we got the recvpackets.txt, how do we update send/receive bRO.pm ?

that's basically what I'm trying to understand here.. how these things work.


edit: just to be clear: I DON'T intend you, kLabMouse, to do your job. In fact, I'd like to ask you not to fix it for us, even if you can/want to. This is our mess, and we must learn how to fix it. I just wanted some instructions, eg. use this, use that...

[kLabMouse]

I understand this is incredibly easy for you, who's been on this for years now. But I started a couple months ago. And I never really cared about learning anything else besides macros until now.

So, I'm just trying to see the whole picture here:

1. unpack ragexe, ok.
2. extract packets from unpacked ragexe (I'm not sure how to do it without your v3)
3. the main question: once we got the recvpackets.txt, how do we update send/receive bRO.pm ?

that's basically what I'm trying to understand here.. how these things work.

you already have thus two functions with packets in clear text. (Posted in the first Page).
So no need to Disassemble or anything like that.

[orerow]

C'mon guys, if everyone does a little, very soon succeed not only the keys of this update, but we'll learn how to achieve future.

Comparing the two files from the first page got it but do not know exactly what to do with the information, software used for comparison: Compare Ultra, the business is not giving up =]

[Brainpower]

It's a small payment for being Ignorant.

Small payment if you use just one bot, I wouldnt mind a low painment if it's low and just once a month but he wants to charge per bot which would only be vantage BIG botters who sell their farmed zeny.

We are NOT selling OpenKore, we are giving access to our forum's private area for those who collaborate with us. There you can get access to our new software, Trident, that can get your bot to work with bRO.

So you're not charging for the software but a part of the software code? This is against the GNU, read yourself.

We can't just develop our system, deal with our costs like new hardware and give it to all those leechers we have registered in our forum. If you contribute to OpenKore project in any way and you're not a leecher, we'll manage to get your access to our system, as it's not just about money.

OpenKore is an open source project, this means there ALWAYS will be leechers as on any other open source projects. Let me give you an example, I bet you use VLC player but on the other side I doubt you contribute there, yes, it's an open source project as well.

We just wanna get rid of leechers, or just give this warning to our brazillian community: if you don't contribute back to this project you'll end up with no devs working for you. We don't think that this situation will last for too long, probably some new guy will just show up and provide a way to fix this for everyone, but this is not happening now. We had fr3dbr, you all demanded him to develop bRO fixes every week like he was obliged to do it, so we lost him. It's been a while since I stopped accessing openkorebr, it's a big coincidence that i got back now that this mess showed up. But I don't feel like fixing this every week for leechers anymore.

Get rid of leechers? You just want to throw away 98% of your community? EVERY GNU licensed software has leechers, there's people who don't understand about the software much and simply are NOT able to contribute. The thing is, this is open source and when you joined the staff you knew you wouldn't get paid or whatever. I just don't see how you guys can infringe the GNU license. "You all"? I never was there to demand anything, I am not even a part of the brazilian community. And he joined the project on his own will, it's open source so there always will be people asking for something because they simply are NOT able to fix it themselves, that's the only reason open source projects even exist.

It's either this situation like forcing everyone to contribute or I'm just leaving everything as it is now: a lot of people wanting this that will just get kore working and forget that we are a community.

So you're complaining people didn't contribute because we are a community? We are a community and I am sure IF people are capable of helping they are helping. And do you guys think making some money of a GNU licensed software is better for the community? It will mess it even more, think about it.

Besides, the server is unplayable with all of those spammers, botfarms of 100+ characters (with some ksers), battleground bots and so on and Ghost thinks he can change it a little if they limit openkore's usage while also getting rid of people who never do anything for the community. Maybe they can make it better, maybe they can't, but i can't see why all the drama regarding their decision. They are the ones who are trying to fix it, they're our developers and i think they have the right to do something to change our community situation even if it goes against all of that opensource stuff.

You are right, probably unplayable with spammers and ton of bots around but this doesn't mean you have to change an open source project and make it paid. There's other ways to handle this, everyone is complaining about us not being a community but after all this paid crap is the worst that could happen to ANY community.

Outside everything imikelance reported that the Brazilian community in the vast majority is sucking, still have the fact of being in a situation bRO regarding the amount of bots.

You guys are the ones whining about us 'not' being a community. Or a 'bad' community. It seems you don't even know the definition of community, go look it up. Anyone who decides to join the project, let it even be a leecher is a part of the community. You forgot that some people just simply are not capable of contributing in any way because they don't know much about the software.

That is, the guy does nothing for the OpenKore project, connects hundreds of bots (farms), other vendors zeny bots dozens of advertisers, infests the whole server of bots and on mode "fuck you" to the community (botter and player).

I agree with you on this one, this advertisement crap and people who use houndreds of bots don't do the bRO good but how many people are that? Let's say probably 20-30 big farmers and 50 announcers. The OpenKore community still has more than 80 members, OpenKore has countless downloads already and you want to make a whole community suffer because there's not even 100 of this idiots who abuse this? Think about this, any open source project can be happy to find 1 contributer per 1k users. That's simply how open source works.

For my part if warned by d openkore.com administration for trying to alert the community that we are truly a community and we have to think beyond the OpenKore server (bRO) itself, I close the Brazilian forum and will no longer run ago to help that half a dozen whiners.

Nobody is complaining about you guys not publishing the fix, I just don't think it's right you call us a community and then want to make everyone pay because there's a hand full of idiots who abuse the system.

We are not violating the license, we are still all together with providing remote access to a server, you probably do not fit the group or the group leecher farmers.

Sorry, but you're offering the fix, this is a part/edit of the orginal OpenKore source code which means it violates the GNU license. Ghost, don't get me wrong, I have absolutly nothing against you, I just think you go too far trying to make money of this open source projects, there's many other ways to deal with this problem.

They're complaining about openkore.com.br's fees, and soon we'll be again with no one else to fix our bRO.pm

What? Nobody is complaining about the fee. This is a simple discussing thread about the violence of the GNU license. You probably shouldn't post here if you don't know what you're talking about.

I'm not here to take part on any side, I'm just not willing to be left with a broken openkore once again. They're not blocking brazilian access to openkore, they're just not sharing for free their efforts. Now that makes a huge difference to me.

And this is the point, they DON'T have to share their works but you know what? They joined this GNU licensed open source project as staff which means they knew they would work for free and are not allowed to charge for SVN changes.

Again, if you don't wanna pay, you're free to go and fix your own openkore, and play for free. You're not being prevented from using openkore, if you're able to fix it.

Again, this is GNU licensed, they are simply NOT allowed to charge for changes on the SVN.

If there's too much users against this we can just leave it up to you that are complaining to fix this. But I won't move a finger before seeing you guys taking any action to solve this situation.

Nobody is forcing you guys to publish fixes, you don't have to. You don't have to do anything but you should have been aware that every open source project has it's leechers.

But if I can give my opinion, this is just useless. Yes, you are free to complain about us, but it won't solve anything. It's even worse: you're against the only option that you have for bRO now, an option that you can choose take or not, and there's a lot of people that support this. And there's one more thing: since a topic that Sugoi or Upantcho (I don't remember who) started a while ago here, brazilians are the only ones that come here to complain about their community.

This is a discussing thread, everyone is free to give their opinion. No, I am not complaining about you nor about Ghost. As I mentioned above, nobody is forcing you or anyone else to fix anything. The only option for bRO? Hell no, there's other ways than asking for money. Ah and by the way, I am not brazilian, I am not complaining about the brazilian community or any other, it's more like the opposite, I am trying to save it, you guys are the ones who want to make a private community, I am the one who's trying to not let it die like this.

In the end, there's little about solving problems and a lot about accusing each other and an unnecessary flame war. We're proposing a way to solve bRO problems, what you're doing about it?

Why not use the key idea and limit bots? Why do you guys want to charge for it? You cannot tell anyone this is not about money then.

We're not selling anything, we will close and delete that topic about that vip area. We will remain offering support in our development and private servers area.

Suddenly a lot of users appeared here interested in helping and supporting this project. I hope you all have fun turning your words into actions instead of asking someone else to do it, unlike many other times that this situation happened with brazilian community.

Why don't you guys just make ranks? You have to contribute to become a Super Member or whatever to be able to access the private section and be able to get fixes, I really don't understand why this all have to be about money.